Robert R. gets a no-prize that can spot a cruise missile a hundred miles away for bringing us news of a military controversy down under:
Aviation analyst Dr Carlo Kopp told the Four Corners program on ABC TV that the Super Hornet would be far outclassed by the new generation of advanced Soviet-built aircraft being acquired by China, Indonesia and Malaysia."In most of the engagements scenarios that we could postulate the Super Hornet would get shot down. It's as simple as that," he said on the program.
The defence department rejected the claims as Four Corners went to air.
Aviation Week has been covering the Australian purchase of F/A-18E/F Super Hornets (as well as the aircraft itself) extensively over the years. If the information in linked the article accurately summarizes what was in the show, this program, and this gentleman in particular, should not be taken seriously.
It is true that the Super Hornet is somewhat slower than the C/D variant it is replacing. This does make it somewhat less maneuverable, and therefore somewhat more vulnerable in air combat. However, this is not "just" an airplane; it's a weapon system. And as a system, the E/F variants are extremely capable. Perhaps not as capable as an F-22 (it also doesn't cost as much), but nonetheless extremely effective, much more so than the C/D variant.
Most damming of all is that the film in question does not seem to mention the AESA radar system at all. Short for Active Electronic Scanned Array, these systems are far more powerful than their predecessors. Indeed, they're so powerful and so new, their full capabilities are still being explored, and what has been figured out is highly classified. What is known is they work very well, allowing a force multiplication that often makes them a deciding factor in any engagement in which they participate*.
As to the comparison with and retirement of Australian F-111s, well, it is true that, on paper at least, the Super Hornet does not compare all that well to the older system. That said, the F-111 was a remarkable platform whose performance statistics will most likely never be equaled again. However, the Aardvark's design is forty years old, it is becoming increasingly difficult (and therefore expensive) to maintain, and adapting it to newer and more effective munitions may not be possible for much longer. Almost nobody expects it to last long enough for the F-35 to directly replace it, hence the Super Hornet purchase.
True, the Russians are beginning to roll out some worryingly capable weapon systems of their own. However, none are available in large numbers, and their capabilities have not been proven in anything close to combat situations. It would be interesting to find out what the opponents of this purchase are proposing as an alternative strategy.
Because, from everything I've read at least, there really isn't one.
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* Indeed, it was the lack of AESA-equipped radars that is most often seen as the reason why a flight of four F-15s was not able to defeat an Indian opposition force four times its size a few years back.
Whats behind them purchasing the F/A 18 at all?? It's primarily a carrier born fighter and the Aus have no carriers.
Why not purchase either purchase the latest mark F-16 or even F-15Es (Wonder if you can buy them factory refurbed or used) to bridge the gap between the F-111 retiring and the F-35 going live??
Posted by: jeff on October 30, 2007 01:50 PMProbably cost/benefit ratio. As much as I love the F-16, the Super Hornet is a damned good plan.
And I'm unsure about the comparisons between the F/A-18 and the F-111. Weren't their missions and capabilities so completely different such that comparisons are kind of apples/oranges?
The F/A-18 should be able to accomplish all of those missions, but it may need to do so with different tactics.
Posted by: Ron on October 30, 2007 04:17 PMPlus, carrier-borne fighters are about as close as you can get to mass-produced, modular fighter jets. They're probably easier to store and maintain than any other of our notoriously high-maintenance military hardware.
Of course, Russian hardware would be even lower maintenance, and cheaper besides, normally. Maybe Howard and Putin aren't on speaking terms any more.
Posted by: Tatterdemalian on October 31, 2007 11:48 AMI haven't found (so far) anything which discusses why the aussies went with the F-18 over its competitors. However, Australia currently operates C & D models, so I would imagine existing relationships with various manufacturers, maintenance providers, and parts suppliers for the earlier models played a factor.
Posted by: scott on October 31, 2007 12:16 PMHmm Interesting that the Aus bought the F/A 18 at all.
Isn't the F-16 fairly similar mission parameter and performance wise?? I know in the shoot out between the two way back when the F-16 won out.
I assume it's a land based variant of the F-18 without all of the various carrier bits on (Arrestor hook, folding wings etc etc) all they really do is add weight to a land based plane and reduce it's performance.
Meh I haven't kept up on the latest US fighters so I really don't know.
Posted by: jeff on October 31, 2007 01:19 PMWell, one interesting thing about the 16 v the 18 is the dual engine factor. With the 16, lose and engine and lose a plane. With the 18, maybe not so much. That could play a factor.
But, yes, I do believe the 16 and 18 have fairly similar parameters and perform fairly equally.
Posted by: ronaprhys on October 31, 2007 07:51 PMI would say thats probably it Ron. I assume the Aus fighters spend a lot of time over water so having two engines instead of one is a VERY good thing (Main reason the Navy doens't operate a navalized version of the F-16 if memory serves)
Guess the F-15 was to expensive or something.
Posted by: jeff on November 1, 2007 09:09 AM