June 30, 2003
Museum of Souls
Posted by Ellen at June 30, 2003 05:39 PM
My sister Nina brings us this link on a new movie comming out in October.
The cool thing is that the creators of the movie are from my town I went to school in (Washingtonville,NY). My sister tells me that it's the owners from J and C Bagels that are creating this movie. Apparently it was bought by Dream Works. (she thinks, not 100% sure)
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Thanks so much for the kind comments about our movie! To make a few corrections, The movie is being created by Hexx Music & Films, Inc. We are located north of you, on the outskirts of Troy, New York. The film is being purchased by large company from Burbank, California which we are not at liberty to disclose right now, due to legal issues.
We do appreciate your kind words so much and your interest in the film! It makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE TO US! Thank you so kindly! Keep checking the site! There are many more surprises to come until it's release!
Hexx Music & Film, Inc.
I Love horror films,cult classics and more hope you get this up and running soon,Good Luck to you!!!!!!!!!!!!
I spent many a night partying at "pinewoods". We partied in cars, around campfires, and occasionally in the old mausoleum. Personally, I've never encountered anything. Though I must admit, that from the first time I saw the place, I felt right being there. Years later I found out that my great grandparents are buried there. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing your movie. Good luck.
Thank you all so kindly for the supportive posts! We continue on with the Hollywood red-tape, but I promise you this is a film that will happen...there is much interest generating around it. We are happy to have great people like yourselves take such an interest!
THANK YOU EVERYONE! WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH!
We shall keep you updated :)
Hexx Music & Film, Inc.
I tried to access your website- www.museumofsouls.com and it no longer gives the history of the Forest Park cemetery. I admire you for going out on a limb,(no pun) to make this movie. I used to reside close to the cemetery and would go there often. I did not believe what others had told me about the cemetery, but soon found myself drawn there all the time. It is a sad place. I am hoping that a group is formed to revamp this decrepit resting place. Are you going to give a percentage of your profits to assist in the rebuilding of the cemetery?
I've been to pinewoods cemetary in Troy. I think it is the real deal and I'd liek to see a movie about it. Make it already. And whats with the website, where sis it go?
Why, this is the most amazing thang i've ever seen!
A couple of years ago I heard about this website (museumofsouls.com) and went to it and was floored by this story. I couldn't wait for the film to come out, then the site simply disappeared.
A friend of mine who is registered at IMDB hooked me up with an email addy where I could reach the creator and his studios.
Glad to see this film about FOREST PARK is finally going to make it to the big screen soon!
He is currently in Vienna and Hungary working on another project. MUSEUM OF SOULS is finally gonna' happen soon after!!!!!!!!!!
Living near Troy most of adolecent life, I can hardly wait for this film!
For all those who think the story is real:
The film from Hexx is NOT based on a true story.
(Consider the film to be a "Blair Witch" knock-off.)
I've checked the facts that they've used to promote it. I live in the town where the cemetery is and I've researched their story, extensively. They've made up the story and the diary. I have proof, email me if you like, at firstname.lastname@example.org
It's unfortunate that their story just entices more trespassing and vandalism on this sacred ground.
If this film is made, they should donate some of the profits to maintaining the cemetery, as a nuisance fee.
As I understand, the film or "script" has gone through a lot of changes.
There is no more any mention of Forest Park or Pinewoods Cemetery within the film - still yet to be made.
I guess you can breath a big sigh of relief then, eh?
Hexx Films is not even "promoting" this film anymore...it's now the vision of a new studio and director. He has moved onto other films and projects for the time being.
Searching the web, the only traces I see of this film were you commenting on it all over the net -and this site (a great site). Well, YOU slagging it, actually. Seems like you have been on some sort of weirdo crusade for years against Hexx. As I understand, you may have bigger fish to fry concerning this whole Forest Park deal anyway, as you were/are penning a book about the place?
I tried to get ahold of the creator of the film and was only able to reach his agent this time. He laughed a great deal and apparently knows your name well. Sounds to me - by the way he talked that you are treading on some thin legal water - and a possible "lawsuit" was not out of the question in the future.
I have no clue what you did wrong other than your ranting and raving but they apparently know your name as a real weirdo and pain in the ass in hollywood.
The book idea was shelved, because 98% of the sources for material were unreliable. Most were stories from those who went to the cemetery to "party" or had "partied" just prior to being there. Not to mention, no collaborating evidence to any of the stories, (including Hexx's).
There isn't even a Life magazine article, as mentioned on many websites regarding the cemetery.
The only qualm I have with Hexx was that they appeared to be misrepresenting their story as FACT.
And if Hexx would like to continue to toss my name around Hollywood, DEFAMING MY CHARACTER, they will be looking at a lawsuit from me, shortly.
So where's this flick? It's over a year since Brian posted... Over 3 since Hexx announced it... what's up?
Did they change the name, and I missed it? Did it go right to video? Where's the website?
I've been looking for it all over, and can't find an update about it.
Does anyone know what is up with it?
From the tone of the last few posts, I'd guess Patti has been filing as many lawsuits as there are lawyers in Washingtonville.
Once an independent filmmaker gets the attention of a "you OWE me a percentage of EVERYTHING" parasite, the film pretty much gets nixed, because nobody wants to deal with the ensuing lawsuits.
Let's set the record straight.
I am neither a parasite nor a crackpot as described in these postings.
I am a wife, mother of 3 young children, and I write as a hobby. As good writers do, I had been doing research on the cemetery for a potential article or book when I ran across Hexx Films' website at the time for Museum of Souls. Incredulous to their story, I had contacted them asking for their sources for their story. They refused, which was certainly their right and NOT a problem, so I began to do my own research on their story.
In doing so, I found that the entries in the journal where fictional, and the story had been fabricated, which was in direct contradiction to Hexx's claims that it was a TRUE STORY.
Since I debunked their story and had made my findings public on the same message boards that they had made their initial postings about MOS, they decided to "lash out" at me by calling me a crackpot both in open forum and privately to those who have contacted them about this. It is a desperate attempt to damage my credibility and invalidate my findings. I have since been contacted by others who have also researched Hexx’s story, and have corroborated my findings as well as presented me with their own evidence of the inconsistencies of their facts.
It is my belief that their film project went sour because of their misrepresentation of it. Any reputable film production company would have their legal department check the authenticity of their claims before signing a deal with them. It is my belief that this is what happened, and that is why it hasn't been made... unless they come clean and stop presenting it as ACTUAL HISTORY.
THAT IS MY ENTIRE CONTENTION: Don't make false claims that a story is true, if it certainly is not; especially when people have evidence to back it up as fiction. I guess they were trying to go with another "Blair Witch" type of story. But they should have come clean about it once the facts were disputed.
You should also ask yourself why their website has been down for over 2 years… wouldn’t they want to keep the hype going? My guess is that they were legally required to do so. But, on this one point, I could be wrong.
If anyone wishes to discuss this with me further they may reach me via email at MrsHamlin@yahoo.com
So you're filing lawsuits because a fictional movie is being produced about a real cemetary and you're afraid it might contain fictional events.
I'd hate to be one of your children. You must embarass the hell out of them at magic shows, screaming "THAT'S NOT REAL MAGIC, IT'S JUST A TRICK" all the time.
Really Hon, you don't know what is going on, and you really shouldn't make rude remarks about something you have no idea about. It makes you look very foolish, dear.
And you really should LEARN TO READ and COMPREHEND before speaking out of turn... or maybe simpler words should be used so you are able to UNDERSTAND the dialog (messages written) that preceded (came before) your ignorant commentary.
So that you are no longer in the dark about this, I will explain to you what has been going on…
1. This entire thread involves a website that has not been active for over 2 years, but when it was up and running it mentioned a diary or journal found written by a witch that was (supposed) to have ACTUALLY lived in Troy, NY during the 1880s. Further mention was that the woman’s story and journal were going to be turned into a movie.
However, myself and others who read the journal, found holes in the story that could sink a battleship, and I made our findings known. This did not sit well with the “creators” who have been trying to sell the story to Hollywood (and unsuspecting ghost/horror enthusiasts on the web) as TRUE. When several enthusiasts contacted them about it, the “creators” bad-mouthed me to each of them, and some have posted to me the comments that were made. I was even threatened to be sued for Cease and Desist (stop) regarding my claim, but they have no case.
2. I never said in these threads that I had filed a lawsuit, just that I was considering one, should they sue me. However, apparently from your twisted thinking, it is ok to have “the creators” toss my name around as a crackpot, and tell others that they are thinking about SUING ME, but when I mention the possibility of countersuing (fighting back the same way) for defamation (making statements about me that are not true) of my character, I AM THE ONE VILLIFIED (made out to be the bad guy)? Where’s the logic in that? (It doesn’t make sense.)
2. Of course I know that movies are fictional (not real) for the most part, with the exception of historical (about real events) and biographical (that tell a real person’s life story) films. However, this movie that was being discussed (which you haven't a clue about, apparently) is being “marketed” by their creators as a TRUE STORY about someone. My contention (argument) is mostly on moral principle (the right thing). As journalists, screenwriters, or story tellers (whatever they want to be called), they need to be ETHICAL (honest) about their presentation and not label it as a TRUE STORY, and a part of local unspoken history when they KNOW that they made up the entire thing.
I hope this has helped you understand what is going on and has educated you on the proper behavior for message boards.
1. Yay, you debunked a movie. Next up, proving that the events in "Terminator 2" never really happened!
2. "And if Hexx would like to continue to toss my name around Hollywood, DEFAMING MY CHARACTER, they will be looking at a lawsuit from me, shortly."
That's exactly the sort of threat crackpots make.
Second 2. Most people these days know perfectly well that "based on a true story" just means that some character or some town in the film is named after one in real life. Obviously not all people, which is what's leading to this amusing string of comments.
PMFJIB - What crawled up your butt? Or are your tidy whities twisted in a bunch and cutting off your oxygen supply to your brain?
She's right, man. If you don't know what's going on, stay out of it.
I remember that website. At the time I thought "Wow, what a great find, this is awesome!" and for me it was because it didn't say "Based on a True Story" it said it WAS a True story.
I didn't like how Blair Witch was made out to be real at first too. It was a big let down for me and my friends to find out it was all made up. we were syched to go to Berkittsville and check out the forest. I don't like being lied to, and neither do my friends. Hell, we know Freddy and Jason ain't real, but then again, no one ever said that their's was based on a true story, or WAS a true story. THIS WEBSITE DID.
They shouldn't be trashing the lady (for TILII) to everyone while peddling their story. If they know she's right, they should come clean, apologize to her and get the thing made without the false promotion. What's the big deal about it?
And you shouldn't be trashing her either. She explained her position logically, and you should respect that. She has ethics, and called them on it as a fellow writer. She should be respected for it, not beaten up about it... Especially by punks.
I'm not a lawyer but, if they are going around trashing her name as how did Brian put it? ..."they apparently know your name as a real weirdo and pain in the ass in hollywood", and said, "by the way he talked [their agent] that you are treading on some thin legal water - and a possible "lawsuit" was not out of the question in the future." then she has EVERY RIGHT to defend herself by putting them on notice too. After all, they made the threat first.
I guess she should be flattered that she has raised such a ruckus in Hollywood. Not bad for a housewife & mom from upstate NY... Maybe she should get her OWN agent?
Seems like you need to grow up and stop slamming people for telling the real truth about things, especially if you don't know all of the facts. Or are you still mad that Santa doesn't exist? (oops did I spoil that one for you?) LMAO
Seems to me man, that YOU are the crackpot, not her. Oh, and btw, grow up and stop being a SNERT!
(I'm sure you'll have a snappy, witty retort for me now too, won't you?!)
"I didn't like how Blair Witch was made out to be real at first too. It was a big let down for me and my friends to find out it was all made up... Or are you still mad that Santa doesn't exist? (oops did I spoil that one for you?) LMAO"
This is what I call a classic case of projection.
I can't exactly double check the claims, though, since the only thing left on the internet about the film is the screaming snitfits Patti had about it. But I liked the original "Blair Witch," fiction or not, and I think it's pretty sad that another independent filmmaker's vision can be shut down by a bunch of loons that are pissed off that magic isn't real.
Patti actually IS a crackpot...one of my great friends is one of her relatives.
As far as the movie...I know little about it - but Patti is just trying to sell her own book - and is pissed because someone stole her thunder.
I've contacted, met and spoken with Patti on several occasions since my first posting. She is a very intelligent, honest, and SANE individual. She is an upstanding member of the community and she is tired of this nonsense. She no longer feels the need to respond to your rant. However, I feel I should defend her since she refuses to do so on her own in this forum.
Josh, you are a LIAR! You do not know ANY one who is related to her, you don't even know where she is from, or where she lives... If so, prove it, name your "great" friend. YOU can't, because like Hexx, you have fabricated a story and now are maligning a very nice, respectable woman, and I have advised her to contact an attorney to sue you, and anyone else for defamation of her character. We both have spoken with staff members at Hexx who have independently contacted her, and they claim that the entire "Museum of Souls" Sarah Gilbert diary was made up by 2 or 3 guys at HEXX, who now have a personal vendetta against Patti because she "outed" their hoax simply by making posts on boards, and squashed their chance to try to sell it as a movie and promote it as "true" story. She has no plans to write a book; originally it was an article for a local newspaper on area folklore. It seems that more people BELIEVE HER than they do Hexx and YOU... and it's pissing you folks off.
Just stop with your smear campaign before you and Hexx see the inside of a courtroom, and then it will be a matter of LEGAL record that the diary is a fake, and the WHOLE story is a fraud.
In other words, PUT UP, OR SHUT UP!
Dear lord guys! This commentary has been bumped around for 4 years now.
Since this seems to be a spitting contest now, I will close this forum tonight.
As Scott Adams said, "Never piss off people who believe in unicorns. They have no sense of humor and will mail you death threats for the rest of their lives over a single three-panel comic."
Seems to apply to morons of all kinds. Oh well, we'll still have the angry "I WAAAAANT TO BEEEEEEELIEVE" crowd on the Haunted eBay thread to play with.